La función de la televisión vs. la función de la televisión registrada
La filosofía y la televisión nunca se llevaron bien y esto ocurre precisamente porque la televisión consta de filosofía propia, impenetrable en las supuestas reflexivas y políticamente correctas mentes filósofas contemporáneas. Los filósofos tienen suficientes temas para abordar y seguramente más importantes que abismar sobre la caja boba; la credibilidad y seguridad que brinda un filósofo al opinar sobre una temática tan frívola como la farándula o Bailando por un Sueño probablemente sea menor a la del filósofo que se niegue a manifestar su concepto sobre este circo, y deje opinar a quienes verdaderamente están capacitados para hacerlo.
Sin embargo, la problemática que deben enfrentar estas mentes incomprendidas es justamente que no hay lugar para ellos en los medios masivos de comunicación, y es por eso que al momento que llaman a un pensador para redactar una columna en prensa escrita o como invitado a un programa de radio o televisión, no es para reflexionar sobre Platón, Descartes o Nietzsche; sino para fundamentar la banalidad televisiva desde la más profunda ignorancia, o peor: desde el resentimiento que genera no poder hablar sobre lo que quieren hablar, y se vean obligados -para tener un espacio- a comentar lo más intrascendente a su criterio desde el facilismo y pecando -como todo buen filósofo- de una desbordante soberbia, colocándose en un pedestal e intentando apuntar contra todo aquello de lo que la gente llena su tiempo libre, es decir, todo menos los pensamientos filosóficos que ellos ansían difundir.
No es difícil encontarse en periódicos -inclusive de nuestro país- que critiquen la vulgaridad de la televisión, o más precisamente de Bailando por un Sueño, que puede ser cierta o no, pero nunca desde el punto de vista que estas creídas mentes superiores plantan, comentando -como están acostumbrados este tipo de filósofos a hacer- sin saber realmente sore qué están hablando y dejándose llevar por comentarios y creencias subjetivas e improbables que se crean dentro de sus pobres pseudomentes críticas. Estos inteligentísimos seres -que consumen la misma basura televisiva que cualquiera que esté leyendo este informe- hablan simplemente desde esta subjetividad absoluta, y por ello aplaudo a los filósofos que en lugar de intentar analizar la tv desde sus propios paradigmas, intentan analizarla desde la tv misma, con la óptica propia de esta institución, por más que seguramente no lleguen a ser queridos por sus colegas. El libro Televisión: Apariencia y verdad del filósofo español Gustavo Bueno (leí algunos fragmentos en Acrobat Reader y es excelente, altamente recomendable), lo manifiesta de manera fantástica, definiendo las críticas de varios pares suyos como < como filosóficamente indoctas>>, nadie mejor que un filósofo para criticar a los filósofos.
Esta breve introducción es para llegar al episodio que tuvo como protagonistas al filósofo Tomás Abraham y a los conductores de TVR la semana pasada. Resulta que el sábado de la semana pasada, el emblemático programa de archivo puso al aire un informe sobre la denuncia al Padre Grassi y la pedofilia, lo que derivó en la manifestación del descontento por parte del invitado:
INFORME GRASSI:
LA PALABRA DE TOMÁS ABRAHAM:
Para sorpresa de todos, nuevamente los conductores de TVR no supieron manejar la situación, o como dijeron en un programa radial argentino , "no supieron defender éticamente el informe del programa". El planteo de Abraham, no era en definitiva muy difícil de refutar, ya que en la posición del catedrático "hay cosas que no se pueden mostrar", y justamente TVR parte de la consigna de servir sin anestesia pero desde una mirada crítica, todo lo que aparece en la televisión.
Se abre entonces, el histórico debate de lo que tendría que aparecer o no en la tv, una discusión que existe desde que la televisión es televisión. Después de tantos años de debate creo que la discusión ya tendría que estar terminada, la televisión está para mostrar, para que la gente se entere de lo que pasa en su entorno y en el mundo, y también para entretener. Pero por más desagradable o chocante pueda resultar una imagen, nunca se debe dejar de mostrar por eso, y si a alguien no le gusta tiene la obvia posibilidad de cambiar de canal. Sobra aclarar que hablamos siempre fuera del horario de protección al menor, cuando la responsabilidad de que menores estén frente a la tv corre por cuenta de los padres y no de la televisión en sí, porque imágenes violentas en horario de protección puede atentar contra la psicología de menores, y eso ya sobrepasa los límites de la mencionada institución. Traigo el tema del horario justamente porque en Argentina ya no se respeta, y cuando algo así pasa en Argentina, no demora en llegar a este lado del río. En la vecina orilla existe un programa denominado Tardes de Acción, una versión vespertina de Policías en Acción, en donde sin piedad se muestran escenas de alto contenido violento en diversos sentidos.
Paradójicamente, en esa misma emisión de TVR, presentaron un informe sobre los límites de la televisión en donde dejaban ver cómo en GH India le avisaron a una chica en vivo que tenía cáncer, o en otro "show" le decían a los participantes cuál tenía o no HIV, de la misma forma que le dicen si están o no nominados. Desconozco si vale la pena meterse en el debate, pero acoto que si uno se mete en un programa de esas características después se tiene que bancar cualquier tipo de consecuencias, insito, cualquiera, porque quien vaya a participar de un reality tiene que tener bien claro que los productores harán lo posible para que te venga un patatús en vivo y poder lograr así el tan buscado pico de rating. En los únicos casos en los que creo que la tv debería cuidarse es en hacer públicos datos de la vida privada de figuras no públicas, y recuerdo para este caso, la divulgación de las crueles fotografías del caso Dalmasso difundidas por el noticiero de América el año pasado.
TVR puso al aire entonces un informe sobre los límites de la televisión que a criterio del invitado el propio programa sobrepasó, pero a su vez, el crítico puso sobre la mesa otra discusión, no sólo qué es lo que hay que mostrar y qué no, sino cómo hay que mostrarlo (la web television.com.ar elaboró la semana pasada un interesante análisis al respecto). Defiendo totalmente a TVR en este aspecto porque justamente gracias a su forma de mostrar las cosas, se logra que esta clase de información llegue a determinada franja etaria, lo mismo se rescata de CQC, que puede tratar temas serios con un contexto que atrapa a jóvenes que dudo hubiesen mirado un sábado de noche un debate sobre el caso Grassi entre Abraham, filósofos y sapientes en el tema. TVR es el reflejo de la televisión (que a su vez es el reflejo de la sociedad) en su máxima expresión justamente porque reúne información y entretenimiento: los dos pilares básicos de la tv. Obviamente defiendo la postura de TVR (no de los conductores) siempre y cuando se maneje dentro de determinados parámetros (léase respeto y buen gusto), no pasó con el delicado tema de la pedofilia, pero sí pasó en otras oportunidades que con tal de resultar graciosos u originales, PPT se pasó de listo y llegó a musicalizar la caída de las torres gemelas con el tema "New York" de Sinatra; conflictos de la FARC con canciones de Xuxa "Indios hacer barullo", o lo que llegó a ser peor: la masacre de Cromagnon con el tema de Sandro "Dame Fuego", Gvirtz tiene que dar gracias que ese día no estaba Abraham en el piso.
No es la única vez que un filósofo deja en jaque a los conductores de TVR. Pasó con Feinmann (ídolo) en el 2006 cuando les dijo al aire que lo que ellos hacían no era más que reproducir basura ajena y que formaban parte de todo eso, siendo peor porque encima toda la basura iba junta (aunque esa crítica sea trillada, es cierto que para que TVR sea coherente sólo debe asumir que está al mismo nivel que el resto de la tv). Más allá de lo bien que me caiga Feinmann, considero que está claro a raíz de este debate que los filósofos no pueden opinar sobre televisión simplemente desde su óptica y elaborar una crítica tan subjetiva y soberbia (por más que sean dos calificativos que le sientan muy bien a los filósofos), e insisto en que los informes de TVR son netamente sanos (los temas serios no hagan disfrutar al público como definió Abraham), y la televisión debe cuidar sus límites pero nunca caer en la autocensura, ya que su labor será siempre reflejar la sociedad de la mejor manera posible.
Una semana después de la discusión, el programa de Gvirtz puso al aire un informe con todas las repercuciones del enfrentamiento, lo interesante es ver la cantidad de gente que pudo defender a TVR mejor que los propios conductores en su momento:
ABRAHAM VS. TVR
Antes de poner el punto final, les dejo este video que demuestra que la televisión no es el único medio de comunicación que Feinmann ataca, pero la discusión sobre esto quedará para otra oportunidad. Feinmann desde acá te bancamos, pero si la gente que escribe mal no tendría que escribir, entonces la gente que pronuncia mal tampoco tendría que hablar... ;)
Sin embargo, la problemática que deben enfrentar estas mentes incomprendidas es justamente que no hay lugar para ellos en los medios masivos de comunicación, y es por eso que al momento que llaman a un pensador para redactar una columna en prensa escrita o como invitado a un programa de radio o televisión, no es para reflexionar sobre Platón, Descartes o Nietzsche; sino para fundamentar la banalidad televisiva desde la más profunda ignorancia, o peor: desde el resentimiento que genera no poder hablar sobre lo que quieren hablar, y se vean obligados -para tener un espacio- a comentar lo más intrascendente a su criterio desde el facilismo y pecando -como todo buen filósofo- de una desbordante soberbia, colocándose en un pedestal e intentando apuntar contra todo aquello de lo que la gente llena su tiempo libre, es decir, todo menos los pensamientos filosóficos que ellos ansían difundir.
No es difícil encontarse en periódicos -inclusive de nuestro país- que critiquen la vulgaridad de la televisión, o más precisamente de Bailando por un Sueño, que puede ser cierta o no, pero nunca desde el punto de vista que estas creídas mentes superiores plantan, comentando -como están acostumbrados este tipo de filósofos a hacer- sin saber realmente sore qué están hablando y dejándose llevar por comentarios y creencias subjetivas e improbables que se crean dentro de sus pobres pseudomentes críticas. Estos inteligentísimos seres -que consumen la misma basura televisiva que cualquiera que esté leyendo este informe- hablan simplemente desde esta subjetividad absoluta, y por ello aplaudo a los filósofos que en lugar de intentar analizar la tv desde sus propios paradigmas, intentan analizarla desde la tv misma, con la óptica propia de esta institución, por más que seguramente no lleguen a ser queridos por sus colegas. El libro Televisión: Apariencia y verdad del filósofo español Gustavo Bueno (leí algunos fragmentos en Acrobat Reader y es excelente, altamente recomendable), lo manifiesta de manera fantástica, definiendo las críticas de varios pares suyos como <
Esta breve introducción es para llegar al episodio que tuvo como protagonistas al filósofo Tomás Abraham y a los conductores de TVR la semana pasada. Resulta que el sábado de la semana pasada, el emblemático programa de archivo puso al aire un informe sobre la denuncia al Padre Grassi y la pedofilia, lo que derivó en la manifestación del descontento por parte del invitado:
INFORME GRASSI:
LA PALABRA DE TOMÁS ABRAHAM:
Se abre entonces, el histórico debate de lo que tendría que aparecer o no en la tv, una discusión que existe desde que la televisión es televisión. Después de tantos años de debate creo que la discusión ya tendría que estar terminada, la televisión está para mostrar, para que la gente se entere de lo que pasa en su entorno y en el mundo, y también para entretener. Pero por más desagradable o chocante pueda resultar una imagen, nunca se debe dejar de mostrar por eso, y si a alguien no le gusta tiene la obvia posibilidad de cambiar de canal. Sobra aclarar que hablamos siempre fuera del horario de protección al menor, cuando la responsabilidad de que menores estén frente a la tv corre por cuenta de los padres y no de la televisión en sí, porque imágenes violentas en horario de protección puede atentar contra la psicología de menores, y eso ya sobrepasa los límites de la mencionada institución. Traigo el tema del horario justamente porque en Argentina ya no se respeta, y cuando algo así pasa en Argentina, no demora en llegar a este lado del río. En la vecina orilla existe un programa denominado Tardes de Acción, una versión vespertina de Policías en Acción, en donde sin piedad se muestran escenas de alto contenido violento en diversos sentidos.
Paradójicamente, en esa misma emisión de TVR, presentaron un informe sobre los límites de la televisión en donde dejaban ver cómo en GH India le avisaron a una chica en vivo que tenía cáncer, o en otro "show" le decían a los participantes cuál tenía o no HIV, de la misma forma que le dicen si están o no nominados. Desconozco si vale la pena meterse en el debate, pero acoto que si uno se mete en un programa de esas características después se tiene que bancar cualquier tipo de consecuencias, insito, cualquiera, porque quien vaya a participar de un reality tiene que tener bien claro que los productores harán lo posible para que te venga un patatús en vivo y poder lograr así el tan buscado pico de rating. En los únicos casos en los que creo que la tv debería cuidarse es en hacer públicos datos de la vida privada de figuras no públicas, y recuerdo para este caso, la divulgación de las crueles fotografías del caso Dalmasso difundidas por el noticiero de América el año pasado.
TVR puso al aire entonces un informe sobre los límites de la televisión que a criterio del invitado el propio programa sobrepasó, pero a su vez, el crítico puso sobre la mesa otra discusión, no sólo qué es lo que hay que mostrar y qué no, sino cómo hay que mostrarlo (la web television.com.ar elaboró la semana pasada un interesante análisis al respecto). Defiendo totalmente a TVR en este aspecto porque justamente gracias a su forma de mostrar las cosas, se logra que esta clase de información llegue a determinada franja etaria, lo mismo se rescata de CQC, que puede tratar temas serios con un contexto que atrapa a jóvenes que dudo hubiesen mirado un sábado de noche un debate sobre el caso Grassi entre Abraham, filósofos y sapientes en el tema. TVR es el reflejo de la televisión (que a su vez es el reflejo de la sociedad) en su máxima expresión justamente porque reúne información y entretenimiento: los dos pilares básicos de la tv. Obviamente defiendo la postura de TVR (no de los conductores) siempre y cuando se maneje dentro de determinados parámetros (léase respeto y buen gusto), no pasó con el delicado tema de la pedofilia, pero sí pasó en otras oportunidades que con tal de resultar graciosos u originales, PPT se pasó de listo y llegó a musicalizar la caída de las torres gemelas con el tema "New York" de Sinatra; conflictos de la FARC con canciones de Xuxa "Indios hacer barullo", o lo que llegó a ser peor: la masacre de Cromagnon con el tema de Sandro "Dame Fuego", Gvirtz tiene que dar gracias que ese día no estaba Abraham en el piso.
No es la única vez que un filósofo deja en jaque a los conductores de TVR. Pasó con Feinmann (ídolo) en el 2006 cuando les dijo al aire que lo que ellos hacían no era más que reproducir basura ajena y que formaban parte de todo eso, siendo peor porque encima toda la basura iba junta (aunque esa crítica sea trillada, es cierto que para que TVR sea coherente sólo debe asumir que está al mismo nivel que el resto de la tv). Más allá de lo bien que me caiga Feinmann, considero que está claro a raíz de este debate que los filósofos no pueden opinar sobre televisión simplemente desde su óptica y elaborar una crítica tan subjetiva y soberbia (por más que sean dos calificativos que le sientan muy bien a los filósofos), e insisto en que los informes de TVR son netamente sanos (los temas serios no hagan disfrutar al público como definió Abraham), y la televisión debe cuidar sus límites pero nunca caer en la autocensura, ya que su labor será siempre reflejar la sociedad de la mejor manera posible.
Una semana después de la discusión, el programa de Gvirtz puso al aire un informe con todas las repercuciones del enfrentamiento, lo interesante es ver la cantidad de gente que pudo defender a TVR mejor que los propios conductores en su momento:
ABRAHAM VS. TVR
Antes de poner el punto final, les dejo este video que demuestra que la televisión no es el único medio de comunicación que Feinmann ataca, pero la discusión sobre esto quedará para otra oportunidad. Feinmann desde acá te bancamos, pero si la gente que escribe mal no tendría que escribir, entonces la gente que pronuncia mal tampoco tendría que hablar... ;)
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Gracias.
Me parece que mirás los programas atrasados porque este conflicto de TVR ya tiene más de una semana...
No miro los programas atrasados, siempre espero que pase una semana aproximadamente para incluir en el informe las repercusiones del caso. Este no es un blog de información al instante ni pretende serlo, no es un blog de noticias.
A ver, por dónde arranco?
TVR comete un error, creo yo, cuando invita a cierta gente como críticos.
El crítico en TVR tiene que ser alguien que vea tele. Me parece terrible cuando invitan a gente que se desayuna de lo que pasa en la TV cuando llega al programa.
Por otro lado, hay algo que me parece que es cierto: TVR se cree mejor que lo que muestra. Y eso no es necesariamente cierto. TVR es parte de la TV, y le da rating mostrar aquello que da rating en los otros programas.
Tampoco están exentos de chistes obvios, vulgaridad, y algunos casos de mal gusto.
Otro tema importante: si algo es de mal gusto, y yo lo muestro, el escudo de "sólo estoy mostrando que los otros lo mostraron" no es una buena táctica. Si mostrar a un chico abusado está mal, mostrar cómo se muestra a un niño abusado es exactamente lo mismo.
En el caso de TVR, todavía a veces agregan una musicalización de dudoso gusto, que no aporta mucho, y agrava la cuestión.
A mí me gusta TVR. Creo que sus informes son, generalmente, muy buenos. Cuando tienen algún invitado con humor, y con conocimientos de televisión (y si es una persona inteligente y leída, mejor), logran sacarle jugo a la situación.
Pero no deben, me parece, olvidarse que son parte de la televisión, y que no siempre están por encima de lo que muestran.
Ellos también hacen cosas indignas por el rating. Ellos muestran lo que muestran los otros. Ellos cambian de horario para ganarle a la competencia...
Hace ya cosa de un año que Gvirtz viene mostrando que se cree mejor que los otros, que su programa es "más elevado". Creo que en cierta forma, coincide con la aparición de Zapping (programa que, sabemos, es inferior en calidad). Si lo pensamos, uno de los mejores momentos de TVR de las últimas semanas fue cuando los conductores ironizaron contra las actitudes del productor contra Pettinato, cuando se apartaron de la línea editorial...
Hay que tener cuidado con eso de sentirse mejor que el otro. La soberbia se paga, y siempre es feo cuando alguien te trae a tierra.
TVR sigue siendo uno de los mejores programas de la TV (junto a CQC, coincido), pero tienen que acordarse que ellos están en el mismo medio, sujetos a las mismas reglas.
Por lo menos así lo veo yo...
P.D.: Feinmann tiene razón, cualquier pelotudo tiene un blog y se cree Borges.
Coincido en la mayoría de puntos, pero discrepo en que TVR se equivoque en invitar cierta gente. En realidad, si se equivocan o no depende del punto de vista y de la función que verdaderamente le quieran dar al invitado. Si la función del crítico invitado es (como parece) que alguien al final del programa le mantenga intacta el autoestima a Gvirtz insistiendo en que es lo mejor que hay en TV, sí se equivocan en llevar a cierta gente y se tendrían que limitar a llevar amigos suyos como Boy Olmi o panelistas de Duro de Domar, ahora, si la función del crítico es realmente dar una opinion y expresar su punto de vista tanto de la tv como del proograma (copmo debería ser) me parece que está bueno que lleven gente como Abraham, incluso si no miran televisión porque en definitiva van aopinar sobre lo que vean en esas dos horas.
Coincido sí con vos en que el argumento de "está mal pasarlo pero nosotros lo hacemos sólo porque lo apsaron otros" es totalmente débil, porque reproducirlo sin compartirlo es todavía muchísimo peor. Sin embargo, no me parece que esté mal en ninguno de los dos casos pasar esas imágenes. Aclaro, televisivamente hablando no me parece que esté mal, después juzgar los valores de los productores en querer tener rating a raíz de mostrar niños que sufren de abuso, es otro tema.
Finalmente coincido también en que el gran problema de TVR recae en creerse mejor de lo que muestra, fue lo que quise decir cuando escribí que para que TVR sea coherente sólo debe asumir que está al mismo nivel que el resto de la tv, pero no me quise extender mucho ene se punto porque hubiera quedado mucho más largo el post, pero vos lo planteaste perfectamente.
Saludos Martín...
PD: No sé si a cualqueir pelotudo le da la cabeza para tener un blog (de redacción como los que describe Feinmann) pero yo lo banco igual, envidio la verborragia de este personaje.
De los conductores de tvr, creo, que el gordito simplemente es muy malo, es incapaz de defender el producto, y tampoco es un tipo que sea rápido para las acotaciones que podría llegar a hacer. Con relacion a la discución, creo que al filosofo se le fue la mano, el infomre de tvr fue blandito!, mi dios, si llega a mirar un capitulo de south park se inmola el tipo ese.
Estoy mayormente de acuerdo contigo, salvo tal vez en lo de los críticos.
Personalmente, prefiero cuando TVR invita gente que ve televisión. Creo que eso hace que aporten más a la discusión.
Hay un error en algunas cosas que comentan. En Duro de Domar explicaron precisamente que Abraham VE TELEVISION, cosa que Feinmann no hace (segun explicaron, yo ni idea). En cuanto al palo que le dio, los conductores son PENOSOS, no podian defender nada, hicieron chistes guarangos completamente desubicados (y que, ademas, estaban todos guionados) saltando ademas de una cosa a la otra sin sentido - Givritz se ve que no le dio mucha bola al programa de ese dia. Ademas, una cosa que despues (y reflexionando sobre lo que habia pasado) noté era que los informes eran todos iguales, musica, comentarios, musica, al final igualan todo - la gravedad del tema de la pedofilia al nivel de los lios del bailando, patinando, etc. Sin embargo, AL SABADO SIGUIENTE, el programa fue mucho mejor. Y Boy Olmi algo les pegó tambien, no compartio todo lo que pasaban y criticó un poco. Una cosa que comentan arriba es cierta, llevan a "amigos", ¿por que no invitan a Rial (como ejemplo, obviamente al estar peleado con Givritz no va a ir y nunca lo van a invitar)? Lo que no me gustó fue que siguieran con ese tema y que trataran a Abraham de facho o algo asi, tomando un comentario completamente fuera de contexto. Quedaron TAN PEGADOS en el programa anterior, que obviar el incidente era lo mejor que podian hacer, en lugar de seguir revolviendo... Y todavia nadie averiguó que paso con la fundación de Grassi, TVR podria haberlo hecho y limpiado un poco su imagen... ¿no?
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